Comments on: Will Google Index a Page with Absolutely NO Backlinks?

By: Allen Hollywood

Allen Hollywood — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:51:29 +0000

I hope my weird logic makes sense.
Allen

By: Allen Hollywood

Allen Hollywood — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:50:00 +0000

I think this is relevant also in the value of nofollow links.

I think in time they will be as valuable as dofollow. Goog may not count them against the page rank flow of the page they are on but nofollow links are actually more in the idea of what linksvalue is all about.

The comments people are making in a conversation and getting nofollow links are in it to give comments. They are doing it to be part of the conversation instead of being after a link. If you use simple Google Logic then the nofollow link is maybe more valuable than a dofollow.

Allen

By: Josh Spaulding

Josh Spaulding — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:06:08 +0000

@ Taking – I’m not sure I understand what you’re asking here?

By: taking surveys

taking surveys — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:34:26 +0000

I am just asking a simple question:

Have you ever found an Index/ page from a search engine listing?

There are thousands.

Do you mean somebody linked to that page?

How did that page get indexed?

Josh is completely wrong standing by this indexing theory.

Or is it just to create a controversy!

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:23:34 +0000

@Josh: Oh well. I tried. Was just a theory :p Would still depend on your registrar though, no? Or your host. Point is, your domain info is out there somewhere, who knows who has access to it.

I know some of my stuff has gotten indexed really really quickly…I just don’t remember if I posted it anywhere. You make a single post about your domain on any forum…and google will find it.

By: Josh Spaulding

Josh Spaulding — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:32:25 +0000

@ Max – I believe they do follow nofollow links, they just don’t assign authority to them, which is what it’s all about. Thanks for the support, glad you like the blog.

@ Mark e – Like I said, I don’t believe authority is being passed, they are just getting indexed, so I’m not sure that it helps.

@ Taking – That’s an odd name, have you read my comment policy? I have at LEAST 30 domains that I’ve had sitting on my server for months, some years, none of them are indexed. Unfortunately you’re simply wrong… sorry

@ Mark – It’s just not true, sorry I have at LEAST 30 domains that I’ve had sitting on my server for months, some years, none of them are indexed.

@ John – I would love to see one of these sites… we’ve shown ours, may we see yours? I’ll even link to it in this post.

@ Tim – I would love to see one of these sites… we’ve shown ours, may we see yours? I’ll even link to it in this post. If that’s the case then it’s an important addition to this case study because it would mean Google is assigning authority to these URL’s for some VERY ODD reason.

My guess is that these “money making” sites were linked to without your knowledge. The URL in this case study was definitely not linked to anywhere.

By: Wawan

Wawan — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:09:50 +0000

Hi Josh, I am surprised with above article. I never think that not clickable link counted as backlink by google. And you also put together a small PDF which explains the case-study and shows proof.
Great Article Josh.

By: Tim

Tim — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:22:31 +0000

@milan I am not necessarily saying you are wrong. I (and others) must just be lucky. I have sites with no links (not even plain text links) that make money for me and have continued to do so for a long time without being deindexed. Some of my sites with no links outrank others if you can believe that!

As you can see others are also saying their sites without links are being indexed as well! Some of us just must be on the right hosting accounts

My last static site without links was visited by the googlebot in less than a day!

By: Write Off Credit Card Debt

Write Off Credit Card Debt — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:51:59 +0000

Well, well! I had previously thought that only if the connection was made and the link was live that the PR-juice would be validated.

But come to think of it, Googlebot would recognise a reference to a URL even if it wasn’t written properly (therefore made live). I suppose this is a good thing as it counts the importance of web pages being referred to even though the person who wrote the link got it a bit wrong.

So even though the link was not correct, the intention was, therefore praise is carried. It makes sense.

By: Google Cash Detective

Google Cash Detective — Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:53:08 +0000

The study is interesting but I think has a major flaw:
Just because the site got indexed it does not mean that it was these ‘non-links’.

I have seen sites getting indexed with no links or any type of references at all!

I don’t know how the spiders find a site that has no references of any kind, but my webserver logs show the Googlebot visiting even a brand-new site it should not have known about.

Again, I have no explanation for that but I have seen it happen over and over again whenever I was working on a site and the Googlebot came even before I could do any link building (normally within 7-10 days after a domain is registered.)

So I guess no matter where you hide Google will find you – with backlinks or without:-)

John