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		<title>By: Ned Storm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was always suspicious about URL redirection and the shortened URL services.

The incentive for criminals to sniff on your traffic and siphon off clicks is too great IMO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was always suspicious about URL redirection and the shortened URL services.</p>
<p>The incentive for criminals to sniff on your traffic and siphon off clicks is too great IMO</p>
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		<title>By: Butâ€¦ How Do I Get Traffic? &#8212; GAME FOR ALL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Butâ€¦ How Do I Get Traffic? &#8212; GAME FOR ALL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] post and give you some credit for new information ~ this just happened to me a couple days ago on Josh Spaulding&#8217;s blog. Don&#8217;t think this only works in internet marketing areas ~ it works for any niche you can think [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] post and give you some credit for new information ~ this just happened to me a couple days ago on Josh Spaulding&#8217;s blog. Don&#8217;t think this only works in internet marketing areas ~ it works for any niche you can think [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 12:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I never even realized that Aweber got hacked. Just searched
for that on Google and I&#039;m shocked. The fact that spammers have
stolen everyone&#039;s list completely explains why I&#039;ve been seeing so
few clicks and sales from my Aweber mailings since early January.
I&#039;m moving my entire list away from them immediately. On the other
hand, GR has handled Josh&#039;s issue very professionally and I feel
great about moving my list over to them. Kudos to Simon and the
GR team!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I never even realized that Aweber got hacked. Just searched<br />
for that on Google and I&#8217;m shocked. The fact that spammers have<br />
stolen everyone&#8217;s list completely explains why I&#8217;ve been seeing so<br />
few clicks and sales from my Aweber mailings since early January.<br />
I&#8217;m moving my entire list away from them immediately. On the other<br />
hand, GR has handled Josh&#8217;s issue very professionally and I feel<br />
great about moving my list over to them. Kudos to Simon and the<br />
GR team!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, 

GetResponse left a bad taste in my mouth a while ago, when I considered moving to them over Aweber.  

As a test, I signed up for an account and started migrating a few smaller lists over to see how their service was, how easy it was to setup campaigns, etc.

At first it seemed okay, but later I began to feel it was much more cumbersome than Aweber.  I know lot of people like GetResponse, but I personally had trouble with they&#039;re default html code for their forms  (they have everything in dv tags rather than tables - minor,  but to me it was limiting) ... as well as a few other things with setting up campaigns. 

After about a week or so, I really felt it wasn&#039;t right for me and asked for a refund.  

Granted they do offer a trial (so this is my fault for actually signing up)... but from a customer service point of view, they basically told me to go take a hike. They weren&#039;t curious of why I didn&#039;t like the service just .. &quot;Sorry - take it or leave it -- and no refunds&quot;

From that experience I will NEVER use GetResponse, or even reconsider their service.  

Now with your tale - even though they fixed the issue .. you had to spend quite a bit of your time to get things corrected or at least get them to admit there was a problem.  

Anytime you use a service like this, whether its a hosting provider, email provider, etc.,. the service they provide becomes a direct reflection on your business.

Choose wisely.

Thanks for the insight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, </p>
<p>GetResponse left a bad taste in my mouth a while ago, when I considered moving to them over Aweber.  </p>
<p>As a test, I signed up for an account and started migrating a few smaller lists over to see how their service was, how easy it was to setup campaigns, etc.</p>
<p>At first it seemed okay, but later I began to feel it was much more cumbersome than Aweber.  I know lot of people like GetResponse, but I personally had trouble with they&#8217;re default html code for their forms  (they have everything in dv tags rather than tables &#8211; minor,  but to me it was limiting) &#8230; as well as a few other things with setting up campaigns. </p>
<p>After about a week or so, I really felt it wasn&#8217;t right for me and asked for a refund.  </p>
<p>Granted they do offer a trial (so this is my fault for actually signing up)&#8230; but from a customer service point of view, they basically told me to go take a hike. They weren&#8217;t curious of why I didn&#8217;t like the service just .. &#8220;Sorry &#8211; take it or leave it &#8212; and no refunds&#8221;</p>
<p>From that experience I will NEVER use GetResponse, or even reconsider their service.  </p>
<p>Now with your tale &#8211; even though they fixed the issue .. you had to spend quite a bit of your time to get things corrected or at least get them to admit there was a problem.  </p>
<p>Anytime you use a service like this, whether its a hosting provider, email provider, etc.,. the service they provide becomes a direct reflection on your business.</p>
<p>Choose wisely.</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight!</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Calvin yeah....I said roll my own but I am actually making modifications to an open source, sequential autoresponder called Infinite Response.  It&#039;s web interface is really quirky and lacking in a professional look but that&#039;s not all that important to me.  

I care more about the robustness of it&#039;s PHP code and it&#039;s functionality.  So far it seems to be pretty good though it will require some work on my part to get it to work the way I like it (for example it asks people to confirm their unsubscribe by clicking on an email link which is counter industry practice these days).  

Using an open source PHP program as a starting point to rolling one&#039;s own sequential autoresponder is an excellent idea Calvin.  

I said what I said to just highlight the differences between paying every single month to do what one could do on their own.  

Thanks for pointing out the open source solution.  

Carlos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Calvin yeah&#8230;.I said roll my own but I am actually making modifications to an open source, sequential autoresponder called Infinite Response.  It&#8217;s web interface is really quirky and lacking in a professional look but that&#8217;s not all that important to me.  </p>
<p>I care more about the robustness of it&#8217;s PHP code and it&#8217;s functionality.  So far it seems to be pretty good though it will require some work on my part to get it to work the way I like it (for example it asks people to confirm their unsubscribe by clicking on an email link which is counter industry practice these days).  </p>
<p>Using an open source PHP program as a starting point to rolling one&#8217;s own sequential autoresponder is an excellent idea Calvin.  </p>
<p>I said what I said to just highlight the differences between paying every single month to do what one could do on their own.  </p>
<p>Thanks for pointing out the open source solution.  </p>
<p>Carlos</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bob Bro:

You mentioned having your list emails sent to spam w.r.t. Yahoo email addresses for the last 6 months. I suspect that it is a Yahoo problem rather than a GetResponse problem. Some emails I sent out from my Yahoo account and cc&#039;ed to myself also ended up in my spam box. Not only that, but my Yahoo email has become extremely unreliable - I am frequently unable to access my emails after logging in.

@Carlos:

You wrote about rolling your own autoresponder solution. Why not use a ready-made open source program like phplist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bob Bro:</p>
<p>You mentioned having your list emails sent to spam w.r.t. Yahoo email addresses for the last 6 months. I suspect that it is a Yahoo problem rather than a GetResponse problem. Some emails I sent out from my Yahoo account and cc&#8217;ed to myself also ended up in my spam box. Not only that, but my Yahoo email has become extremely unreliable &#8211; I am frequently unable to access my emails after logging in.</p>
<p>@Carlos:</p>
<p>You wrote about rolling your own autoresponder solution. Why not use a ready-made open source program like phplist?</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two forum posts were deleted, that&#039;s for sure.  They weren&#039;t violating any policy, they basically said that I have a very fast internet connection and the rest of the internet loads as it should.

The posts were probably deleted by the forum fairies...

Anyway, I&#039;ll stop using Josh&#039;s blog as a support forum and I&#039;ll send you a mail.

Josh, feel free to delete my comments...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two forum posts were deleted, that&#8217;s for sure.  They weren&#8217;t violating any policy, they basically said that I have a very fast internet connection and the rest of the internet loads as it should.</p>
<p>The posts were probably deleted by the forum fairies&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ll stop using Josh&#8217;s blog as a support forum and I&#8217;ll send you a mail.</p>
<p>Josh, feel free to delete my comments&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Grabowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Grabowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t ignore it. I told you in my first
response that we wouldn&#039;t delete such
a post because the GR site is slow for
you. Our Policy Enforcement 
occasionally deletes posts that are not
conforming with our forum&#039;s policies.
GR Forum is not a public discussion
forum, but a moderated assistance
forum for GR users to get help from
other GR users or GR team members.
If you don&#039;t agree with these policies,
please do not use the forum. I have
nothing further to add regarding this
issue.

If you are still looking for help, please
send me an email with information
I asked about.

I can confirm that there are no other
reports about speed, and GR is extremely
fast for our 110,000+ users. I do believe
this issue is isolated to your network.

= S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t ignore it. I told you in my first<br />
response that we wouldn&#8217;t delete such<br />
a post because the GR site is slow for<br />
you. Our Policy Enforcement<br />
occasionally deletes posts that are not<br />
conforming with our forum&#8217;s policies.<br />
GR Forum is not a public discussion<br />
forum, but a moderated assistance<br />
forum for GR users to get help from<br />
other GR users or GR team members.<br />
If you don&#8217;t agree with these policies,<br />
please do not use the forum. I have<br />
nothing further to add regarding this<br />
issue.</p>
<p>If you are still looking for help, please<br />
send me an email with information<br />
I asked about.</p>
<p>I can confirm that there are no other<br />
reports about speed, and GR is extremely<br />
fast for our 110,000+ users. I do believe<br />
this issue is isolated to your network.</p>
<p>= S</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold, TheFreeMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnold, TheFreeMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Simon

Thank you for the info in regard to Josh situation. I have not start my list yet, but soon will because I am getting ready to setup my blog and will start my advertising campaigns . Therefore, I trying to figure out which auto-responder service to use. I like the fact that you have responded and tried to bring a solution. I really hope that Josh case may be truly resolve for good. I desire the best to all marketers in here. 

Have a great day.

Arnold</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Simon</p>
<p>Thank you for the info in regard to Josh situation. I have not start my list yet, but soon will because I am getting ready to setup my blog and will start my advertising campaigns . Therefore, I trying to figure out which auto-responder service to use. I like the fact that you have responded and tried to bring a solution. I really hope that Josh case may be truly resolve for good. I desire the best to all marketers in here. </p>
<p>Have a great day.</p>
<p>Arnold</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t get a reply.

Why do you ignore my question about disappearing forum posts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get a reply.</p>
<p>Why do you ignore my question about disappearing forum posts?</p>
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