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		<title>By: Josh Spaulding</title>
		<link>http://www.ethicalim.com/internet-marketing/internet-marketing-business-owners-give-bad-advice/#comment-5471</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Spaulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Terry - Yes, I don&#039;t have any toys for you, sorry lol

Of course we all have some sort of angle. Everything I do in my business is to make money.

BUT, I do it in an honest way. I would NEVER, I&#039;ll say it again NEVER (please quote on that for the future) recommend something that I haven&#039;t tried and that I don&#039;t honestly believe would help you!

I would NEVER advise you to do something or to stop doing something that would help me, but not you!

So, I do see your point and it is valid, but my point is that you are either honestly interested in helping people succeed or you aren&#039;t.

*edit* the business owners I am referring to in this post are not. They&#039;ll help you, but only if it helps them! Some of us will help you whether it helps us or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Terry &#8211; Yes, I don&#8217;t have any toys for you, sorry lol</p>
<p>Of course we all have some sort of angle. Everything I do in my business is to make money.</p>
<p>BUT, I do it in an honest way. I would NEVER, I&#8217;ll say it again NEVER (please quote on that for the future) recommend something that I haven&#8217;t tried and that I don&#8217;t honestly believe would help you!</p>
<p>I would NEVER advise you to do something or to stop doing something that would help me, but not you!</p>
<p>So, I do see your point and it is valid, but my point is that you are either honestly interested in helping people succeed or you aren&#8217;t.</p>
<p>*edit* the business owners I am referring to in this post are not. They&#8217;ll help you, but only if it helps them! Some of us will help you whether it helps us or not.</p>
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		<title>By: SEO Noobs</title>
		<link>http://www.ethicalim.com/internet-marketing/internet-marketing-business-owners-give-bad-advice/#comment-5470</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Noobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good advice, Josh (was that too Christmassy?).

Seriously though, it would be difficult to find anyone who markets online without some sort of angle. Even those who give &quot;good&quot; advice are probably looking to build a reputation . . . and why would they even be interested in such a thing if they didn&#039;t have something to sell?

In other words, when reading &quot;advice&quot; it&#039;s always good to consider the source as well as the source&#039;s possible motivation . . . either for selling something now or down the line.

For example, I know of at least one blogger who wants to build an email list which provides good information, but the end result is a funnel into selling ebooks, coaching, and the sort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good advice, Josh (was that too Christmassy?).</p>
<p>Seriously though, it would be difficult to find anyone who markets online without some sort of angle. Even those who give &#8220;good&#8221; advice are probably looking to build a reputation . . . and why would they even be interested in such a thing if they didn&#8217;t have something to sell?</p>
<p>In other words, when reading &#8220;advice&#8221; it&#8217;s always good to consider the source as well as the source&#8217;s possible motivation . . . either for selling something now or down the line.</p>
<p>For example, I know of at least one blogger who wants to build an email list which provides good information, but the end result is a funnel into selling ebooks, coaching, and the sort.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Spaulding</title>
		<link>http://www.ethicalim.com/internet-marketing/internet-marketing-business-owners-give-bad-advice/#comment-5469</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Spaulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 14:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true in a way, but not really what I hitting on.

In regards to sales pages and products it all comes down to being a good consumer...never judge a book by it&#039;s cover (or its sales page.)

This post is more about the &quot;advice&quot; coming from internet business owners who lie to you about strategies and techniques so you&#039;ll do the things that help their business grow.

For instance, an article directory owner telling you that inserting a rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; into the signature links of your article will not hurt you, because the &quot;real&quot; value is in the traffic that the article directory sends. That traffic helps, but those links do too! Without them, article marketing wouldn&#039;t help at all in ranking in the SE&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true in a way, but not really what I hitting on.</p>
<p>In regards to sales pages and products it all comes down to being a good consumer&#8230;never judge a book by it&#8217;s cover (or its sales page.)</p>
<p>This post is more about the &#8220;advice&#8221; coming from internet business owners who lie to you about strategies and techniques so you&#8217;ll do the things that help their business grow.</p>
<p>For instance, an article directory owner telling you that inserting a rel=&#8221;nofollow&#8221; into the signature links of your article will not hurt you, because the &#8220;real&#8221; value is in the traffic that the article directory sends. That traffic helps, but those links do too! Without them, article marketing wouldn&#8217;t help at all in ranking in the SE&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark McCullagh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark McCullagh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem has been that the early adopters used every copywriting strategy known to mankind to sell stuff online, and make a ton of dough.

The focus was not on providing useful content and/or products, just conversion rates etc.

Thankfully, we are (I hope) finally starting to see a shift in this paradigm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem has been that the early adopters used every copywriting strategy known to mankind to sell stuff online, and make a ton of dough.</p>
<p>The focus was not on providing useful content and/or products, just conversion rates etc.</p>
<p>Thankfully, we are (I hope) finally starting to see a shift in this paradigm.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Spaulding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Spaulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@  Kris - I guess I should have expected that lol

It&#039;s not necessarily the &quot;pushing&quot; of products. I push products as well. It&#039;s all about WHY you push those products.

For me it&#039;s because I honestly recommend them. For others it&#039;s because they have a good affiliate program.

This post is in regards to big services like the one I&#039;m referring to in this example and not necessarily individuals.

&quot;Seriously, Iâ€™m going to try to be less product-pusher, and more info-giver, as that seems to be a good mix.&quot;

The trick is to always give more than you take and be honest with everything you do, most importantly, be honest with your product recommendations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@  Kris &#8211; I guess I should have expected that lol</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not necessarily the &#8220;pushing&#8221; of products. I push products as well. It&#8217;s all about WHY you push those products.</p>
<p>For me it&#8217;s because I honestly recommend them. For others it&#8217;s because they have a good affiliate program.</p>
<p>This post is in regards to big services like the one I&#8217;m referring to in this example and not necessarily individuals.</p>
<p>&#8220;Seriously, Iâ€™m going to try to be less product-pusher, and more info-giver, as that seems to be a good mix.&#8221;</p>
<p>The trick is to always give more than you take and be honest with everything you do, most importantly, be honest with your product recommendations.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, good point (I tried thinking of a way to disagree so I wasn&#039;t like one of those kids at Christmas, but I couldn&#039;t think of a good reason).  The problem is that everyone can look like an expert online.  So how do we know you&#039;re an expert worth listening to?  From what I&#039;ve seen so far, you&#039;re not the typical product-pusher, and you give real examples, so you seem trustworthy - but I just bought the article post robot last night, so if I don&#039;t have a #1 ranking on Google tomorrow morning, I&#039;ll be back to disagree! :)  Seriously, I&#039;m going to try to be less product-pusher, and more info-giver, as that seems to be a good mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, good point (I tried thinking of a way to disagree so I wasn&#8217;t like one of those kids at Christmas, but I couldn&#8217;t think of a good reason).  The problem is that everyone can look like an expert online.  So how do we know you&#8217;re an expert worth listening to?  From what I&#8217;ve seen so far, you&#8217;re not the typical product-pusher, and you give real examples, so you seem trustworthy &#8211; but I just bought the article post robot last night, so if I don&#8217;t have a #1 ranking on Google tomorrow morning, I&#8217;ll be back to disagree! <img src='http://www.ethicalim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Seriously, I&#8217;m going to try to be less product-pusher, and more info-giver, as that seems to be a good mix.</p>
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		<title>By: Mert Erkal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mert Erkal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 18:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, you are absolutely right. There are a lot of people who tends to believe what is offered to them by these internet marketers without even thinking a few minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, you are absolutely right. There are a lot of people who tends to believe what is offered to them by these internet marketers without even thinking a few minutes.</p>
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