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		<title>By: Maurice (TheCaymanHost)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurice (TheCaymanHost)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s happened to me on several occasions and my position has gradually grown to &quot;well, whatcha gonna do?&quot;

It is annoying, particularly when splogs on Blogger remove the nav bar and there&#039;s no way to contact the &quot;author&quot;. If it&#039;s running any kind of PPC,  Adsense or otherwise, I report it to the company serving the ads. It&#039;s not much but maybe they&#039;ll lose their accounts and any of their ill gotten earnings 

The trouble with RSS is it&#039;s a double edged sword - if a quality site wants to syndicate my headlines, that&#039;s probably a good thing, but a crappy splog/scraper site, even if it links back  to my original work, is not something I want to be remotely associated with. A link from such a site may well be a link, but it&#039;s worth very little even if it&#039;s not nofollowed, which of course most will be on Blogger splogs.

One site a few months back actually completely plagiarized some html from an old static site of mine - they even had the decency to leave all the affiliate links in place LOL

Ah, well, whatcha gonna do.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s happened to me on several occasions and my position has gradually grown to &#8220;well, whatcha gonna do?&#8221;</p>
<p>It is annoying, particularly when splogs on Blogger remove the nav bar and there&#8217;s no way to contact the &#8220;author&#8221;. If it&#8217;s running any kind of PPC,  Adsense or otherwise, I report it to the company serving the ads. It&#8217;s not much but maybe they&#8217;ll lose their accounts and any of their ill gotten earnings </p>
<p>The trouble with RSS is it&#8217;s a double edged sword &#8211; if a quality site wants to syndicate my headlines, that&#8217;s probably a good thing, but a crappy splog/scraper site, even if it links back  to my original work, is not something I want to be remotely associated with. A link from such a site may well be a link, but it&#8217;s worth very little even if it&#8217;s not nofollowed, which of course most will be on Blogger splogs.</p>
<p>One site a few months back actually completely plagiarized some html from an old static site of mine &#8211; they even had the decency to leave all the affiliate links in place LOL</p>
<p>Ah, well, whatcha gonna do&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rif Chia</title>
		<link>http://www.ethicalim.com/blogging/can-spammers-legally-steal-your-blog-content/#comment-2528</link>
		<dc:creator>Rif Chia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is definitely not ethical!! How could you take someone&#039;s content and embed into your own site, yet claimed it is ok? Come on, it takes time and effort to write good content. I hope Google can do something about such spammers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is definitely not ethical!! How could you take someone&#8217;s content and embed into your own site, yet claimed it is ok? Come on, it takes time and effort to write good content. I hope Google can do something about such spammers</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Spaulding</title>
		<link>http://www.ethicalim.com/blogging/can-spammers-legally-steal-your-blog-content/#comment-2508</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Spaulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Raving. Please see above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Raving. Please see above.</p>
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		<title>By: Raving Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.ethicalim.com/blogging/can-spammers-legally-steal-your-blog-content/#comment-2501</link>
		<dc:creator>Raving Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 05:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey i too have a blog site .Is that possible that some can steal my content of mine.Some one help me out of it, I am aware of it very much.And finally thank you for  
your wonderful post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey i too have a blog site .Is that possible that some can steal my content of mine.Some one help me out of it, I am aware of it very much.And finally thank you for<br />
your wonderful post.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Cronin</title>
		<link>http://www.ethicalim.com/blogging/can-spammers-legally-steal-your-blog-content/#comment-2474</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

I didn&#039;t have to do anything! Here&#039;s what their email said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Thank you for letting us know about this website. I have forwarded your
comments to our team of specialists so that they can look into this issue
further. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

then some links to their policy pages, then:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
While we appreciate your help in
upholding these standards, please note that I am unable to comment
directly on the site or the outcome of this issue, as we are dedicated to
ensuring the privacy of all AdSense accounts. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s it. There&#039;s nothing for me to do, but sit back and wait to see if they do anything (they&#039;re not going to tell me). Gotta say my hopes aren&#039;t too high...

Thanks for plugging FeedEntryHeader - you don&#039;t have to, so it&#039;s appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t have to do anything! Here&#8217;s what their email said:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Thank you for letting us know about this website. I have forwarded your<br />
comments to our team of specialists so that they can look into this issue<br />
further.
</p></blockquote>
<p>then some links to their policy pages, then:</p>
<blockquote><p>
While we appreciate your help in<br />
upholding these standards, please note that I am unable to comment<br />
directly on the site or the outcome of this issue, as we are dedicated to<br />
ensuring the privacy of all AdSense accounts.
</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s it. There&#8217;s nothing for me to do, but sit back and wait to see if they do anything (they&#8217;re not going to tell me). Gotta say my hopes aren&#8217;t too high&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for plugging FeedEntryHeader &#8211; you don&#8217;t have to, so it&#8217;s appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Spaulding</title>
		<link>http://www.ethicalim.com/blogging/can-spammers-legally-steal-your-blog-content/#comment-2473</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Spaulding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 04:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ Zhu&lt;/b&gt; - It sure is annoying isn&#039;t it? Every new post I publish is picked up on 3 splogs every single time. And then there&#039;s the random splogs that pick up random posts. I recommend clicking that link above to the article that Jonathan wrote for the Blog Herald for info on what to do.

&lt;b&gt;@ Jonathan&lt;/b&gt; - Thanks for stopping by and leaving such a valuable comment. I &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; I understand a good majority of what you explained. I was fairly certain it was illegal and your statements reinforce that. Thanks alot for the offer of help as well. 

I, myself don&#039;t worry too much about it. Most of these splogs will never go anywhere and theres very little chance they will do any considerable damage to my rankings. It&#039;s really just the fact of the matter that they are stealing the work of those who take the time to create it that gets to me.

&lt;b&gt;@ Terry&lt;/b&gt; - Well thanks to you for setting this blog up for me when I had no idea what blogging was all about, I have the same realization now :) I still visit the forum from time to time, but I&#039;ve found so many excellent blogs, I just keep up with them and learn much more.

&lt;b&gt;@ Stephen&lt;/b&gt; - I reported one a few months back and I got a reply laying out exactly what to do. Unfortunately the things they needed would have taken hours, if not days, to produce so I just gave up.

I&#039;m almost to the tipping point in favor of installing your FeedEntryHeader plugin. Not sure why I haven&#039;t already. Laziness probably :) I&#039;m going to give that a plug in the main body by the way. I should have initially.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ Zhu</b> &#8211; It sure is annoying isn&#8217;t it? Every new post I publish is picked up on 3 splogs every single time. And then there&#8217;s the random splogs that pick up random posts. I recommend clicking that link above to the article that Jonathan wrote for the Blog Herald for info on what to do.</p>
<p><b>@ Jonathan</b> &#8211; Thanks for stopping by and leaving such a valuable comment. I <i>think</i> I understand a good majority of what you explained. I was fairly certain it was illegal and your statements reinforce that. Thanks alot for the offer of help as well. </p>
<p>I, myself don&#8217;t worry too much about it. Most of these splogs will never go anywhere and theres very little chance they will do any considerable damage to my rankings. It&#8217;s really just the fact of the matter that they are stealing the work of those who take the time to create it that gets to me.</p>
<p><b>@ Terry</b> &#8211; Well thanks to you for setting this blog up for me when I had no idea what blogging was all about, I have the same realization now <img src='http://www.ethicalim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I still visit the forum from time to time, but I&#8217;ve found so many excellent blogs, I just keep up with them and learn much more.</p>
<p><b>@ Stephen</b> &#8211; I reported one a few months back and I got a reply laying out exactly what to do. Unfortunately the things they needed would have taken hours, if not days, to produce so I just gave up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m almost to the tipping point in favor of installing your FeedEntryHeader plugin. Not sure why I haven&#8217;t already. Laziness probably <img src='http://www.ethicalim.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m going to give that a plug in the main body by the way. I should have initially.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 07:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

It&#039;s just plain wrong and, I&#039;m pretty sure, illegal. The problem is what we can do about it?

I reported a splog to Google&#039;s Adsense team 3 weeks ago (for including content that breaks copyright agreements) and so far the site still has Adsense showing. 

Really we need Google to take the lead on this and banish splogs from the Adsense program. If they don&#039;t, then they are sending a message that it&#039;s bad to sell links or write sponsored posts (which aren&#039;t illegal), but it&#039;s fine to rip off people&#039;s content (which is illegal).

Anyway, for now I&#039;m sitting tight and waiting to see whether they&#039;ll take any action or not. Of course, I&#039;m also using my FeedEntryHeader plugin to put a copyright statement and the url of the original post at the top of my feed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just plain wrong and, I&#8217;m pretty sure, illegal. The problem is what we can do about it?</p>
<p>I reported a splog to Google&#8217;s Adsense team 3 weeks ago (for including content that breaks copyright agreements) and so far the site still has Adsense showing. </p>
<p>Really we need Google to take the lead on this and banish splogs from the Adsense program. If they don&#8217;t, then they are sending a message that it&#8217;s bad to sell links or write sponsored posts (which aren&#8217;t illegal), but it&#8217;s fine to rip off people&#8217;s content (which is illegal).</p>
<p>Anyway, for now I&#8217;m sitting tight and waiting to see whether they&#8217;ll take any action or not. Of course, I&#8217;m also using my FeedEntryHeader plugin to put a copyright statement and the url of the original post at the top of my feed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Heath</title>
		<link>http://www.ethicalim.com/blogging/can-spammers-legally-steal-your-blog-content/#comment-2441</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you know, I used to frequent the Warrior Forum. However, I realized the time it was frittering away. It is a place where you can learn, but compared to blogging, forums are old technology. I can learn (and share) more reading blogs of those I respect.

I guess there isn&#039;t an easy answer to scraping, other than not sending out your full post in the RSS feeds. In that case, any scrapers truly are giving me a link and anyone who wants to read the entire article has to visit my blog.

At the same time though, that handicaps the use of an RSS reader, so I&#039;m torn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you know, I used to frequent the Warrior Forum. However, I realized the time it was frittering away. It is a place where you can learn, but compared to blogging, forums are old technology. I can learn (and share) more reading blogs of those I respect.</p>
<p>I guess there isn&#8217;t an easy answer to scraping, other than not sending out your full post in the RSS feeds. In that case, any scrapers truly are giving me a link and anyone who wants to read the entire article has to visit my blog.</p>
<p>At the same time though, that handicaps the use of an RSS reader, so I&#8217;m torn.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.ethicalim.com/blogging/can-spammers-legally-steal-your-blog-content/#comment-2438</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt that content in an RSS feed is protected by copyright as it easily meets the requirements for copyrightability and, under the law, the fact that something can be rebroadcast does not mean that one has the permission to do so.

A good analogy is TV signals. The mere fact you can rebroadcast them and that they are sent out to anyone and everyone with an receiver in range does not means you have the right to do so. Cable companies ran into this issue when they started transmitting local TV stations over cable lines. Broadcast stations eventually won the right to charge the companies for that access.

There is, with RSS, the issue of an implied license. An implied license is a license granted to a user by the actions of a copyright holder. For example, when you post works to the Web, you give users an implied license to cache copies and for search engines to index the content. Both, however, become invalid if you offer an express license, by either adding nocache or forbidding search engines through robots.txt.

An implied license, for the most part, extends only as far as what is physically necessary for the user to use the content in the intended fashion. It extends only to directly foreseeable consequences of a use and, in most cases, RSS&#039;s most foreseeable uses involve RSS readers. The fact that so many are surprised that their content is syndicated via RSS indicates that they are unaware of the possibility and did not intend for it.

However, even if there is any implied license with RSS for resyndication, something I see as highly unlikely, it can easily be trumped by an actual license. This can be done by either using a copyright statement or applying a Creative Commons License. That is, until a fully automated means of providing a copyright license comes along (something similar to either meta tags or robots.txt).

All in all, I would agree wholeheartedly that you have full rights to go after anyone that republishes your feed. Whether you should do so is, of course, another matter. But that I leave up to the individual.

If you need any help dealing with a scraper, please let me know and I will gladly assist. If you need any contact information or stock letters, I should have that on my site.

I&#039;ll gladly do what I can to help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt that content in an RSS feed is protected by copyright as it easily meets the requirements for copyrightability and, under the law, the fact that something can be rebroadcast does not mean that one has the permission to do so.</p>
<p>A good analogy is TV signals. The mere fact you can rebroadcast them and that they are sent out to anyone and everyone with an receiver in range does not means you have the right to do so. Cable companies ran into this issue when they started transmitting local TV stations over cable lines. Broadcast stations eventually won the right to charge the companies for that access.</p>
<p>There is, with RSS, the issue of an implied license. An implied license is a license granted to a user by the actions of a copyright holder. For example, when you post works to the Web, you give users an implied license to cache copies and for search engines to index the content. Both, however, become invalid if you offer an express license, by either adding nocache or forbidding search engines through robots.txt.</p>
<p>An implied license, for the most part, extends only as far as what is physically necessary for the user to use the content in the intended fashion. It extends only to directly foreseeable consequences of a use and, in most cases, RSS&#8217;s most foreseeable uses involve RSS readers. The fact that so many are surprised that their content is syndicated via RSS indicates that they are unaware of the possibility and did not intend for it.</p>
<p>However, even if there is any implied license with RSS for resyndication, something I see as highly unlikely, it can easily be trumped by an actual license. This can be done by either using a copyright statement or applying a Creative Commons License. That is, until a fully automated means of providing a copyright license comes along (something similar to either meta tags or robots.txt).</p>
<p>All in all, I would agree wholeheartedly that you have full rights to go after anyone that republishes your feed. Whether you should do so is, of course, another matter. But that I leave up to the individual.</p>
<p>If you need any help dealing with a scraper, please let me know and I will gladly assist. If you need any contact information or stock letters, I should have that on my site.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll gladly do what I can to help!</p>
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		<title>By: Zhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happens to me from time of time, and I must admit that even if I know in my guts that it&#039;s wrong, I never know how to deal with that.

I don&#039;t care about spammers&#039; backlink, I just don&#039;t want to be on splogs. Period. I work hard for my content and I&#039;m happy to share it with other bloggers, but people making money out of it? No, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happens to me from time of time, and I must admit that even if I know in my guts that it&#8217;s wrong, I never know how to deal with that.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care about spammers&#8217; backlink, I just don&#8217;t want to be on splogs. Period. I work hard for my content and I&#8217;m happy to share it with other bloggers, but people making money out of it? No, thanks.</p>
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